“3/03/2010, 2:39pm EST”
“When a man wants to murder a tiger, he calls it sport; when a tiger wants to murder him, he calls it ferocity.”
—George Bernard Shaw, writer and Nobel laureate (1856–1950) (via jennymarmalade)
Music, Philosophy, Analysis, (R)evolution
“3/03/2010, 2:39pm EST”
“When a man wants to murder a tiger, he calls it sport; when a tiger wants to murder him, he calls it ferocity.”
—George Bernard Shaw, writer and Nobel laureate (1856–1950) (via jennymarmalade)
“3/03/2010, 2:35pm EST”
inky: The Mouth Licking What You’ve Bled, by Meshuggah (from the new DVD Alive).
“3/03/2010, 11:11am EST”
Several weeks ago we posted about how a delusional group of creationist right-wing lunatics have been exerting out-sized influence on public school textbook standards nationwide from their perches on the Texas State Board of Education.
Well, good news: Don McLeroy, their fundamentalist dentist ringleader, has just been fired by Texas voters in favor of a much saner candidate. What’s more, he was ousted — albeit narrowly — by Republican voters in the Republican primary.
Thank you, Texas Republicans, for seeing some light.
“3/03/2010, 1:57am EST”
“3/03/2010, 12:22am EST”
Serwal had some “fucking stupid” points to make in response to the bat cartoon post. His/her comments are in italics and addressed in full and in chronological order, though they have been segmented in order to make our responses clearer.
This is fucking stupid. Not that being a vegetarian, vegan, or anything related is stupid. The reasoning and list used completely ignores the fact that we’re arbitrarily omnivores, no matter what anyone says. Inherent free choice, multi-purpose teeth, and the biggest contributor to our survival and evolution: the ability to adapt to new foods and the widest variety of food.
Where to start?
You say we’re “arbitrarily omnivores no matter what anyone says.” How about what anyone does? After all, I’m a vegan, not an omnivore. And do you know what “arbitrarily” means? If so, can you explain what it is supposed to add to your already problematic thought?
“Inherent free choice, multi-purpose teeth, and the biggest contributor to our survival and evolution: the ability to adapt to new foods and the widest variety of food.” Inherent free choice? This is a joke, a spoke on the wheel of human reflexive mythology. Free will is unequivocally impossible (beware, this will require heavy reading). Really, you’re just making shit up. Multi-purpose teeth? Herbivores can have multi-purpose teeth too — rabbits have incisors, for example. “The ability to adapt to new foods and the widest variety of food.” This is nothing more than a “might makes right” rationale, which is fallacious and not, I easily imagine, something you support when it comes to your own well-being.
Again, being Vegetarian, Vegan, or anything else related is NOT stupid, the picture and “supporting” list of “reasons” is fucking stupid. This example of reasoning is par to that of a Creationist, Intelligent Design, or both.
Hey, I’m glad you don’t think veganism is stupid. But we are not here resting the case for veganism upon anatomy or ancestry (i.e. the list of herbivorous anatomical features present in humanity). As one can see from our post, such arguments have been recognized as fallacious. Still, it is appropriate to answer those who would make factually incorrect arguments in favor of needlessly killing other animals by pointing out, in addition to the bad reasoning, that humans don’t actually have the apparatus of meat-eaters. Also, “the picture” is not an argument in favor of veganism. The item we posted reacted against the picture. And I don’t know where you’re going with the Creationism and Intelligent Design parallel.
Eat what you want, because of your own convictions. Do your research and then decide. Oh, and activists are stupid.
Ah, the moral indignation of moral relativists. Priceless. It’s also fun when moral relativists unknowingly but inevitably stake out universal moral positions, thus imploding their own system. “Eat what you want” just barely qualifies as a universal moral assertion, since it is based on nothing but your personal convenience, but nevertheless it is a moral position that is meant to apply to all. Speaking of which, I suppose you would be cool with a human coming by and chomping you to bits? After all, it would be a human doing the eating, eh? Of course, you wouldn’t be okay with that, and with good reason. The next step is to think beyond yourself and realize that no other creature, human or otherwise, deserves such a fate in the face of alternatives.
As for research, yes, I’m all for it. Decent research on relevant topics would reveal, for example, that the animals forced to endure hell for human taste buds suffer just as much as humans would. Since we obviously would have a problem with needlessly torturing and slaughtering other humans, we cannot deny other animals this same consideration. For another example, decent research would reveal that animal agriculture is by far the #1 source of global warming pollution. It would be nice if, as relativists implicitly posit, this suffering and these catastrophic environmental effects were no more real than our willingness to believe as much. But they are indeed belief-independent, and it truly puts one in the league of the anti-evolutionists to assert otherwise. There is truth, and there are moral propositions that respect the truth. “Eat what you want” is not one of them.
As for activists, I wonder how many people would be able to do research without activists, especially when it comes to animal welfare? Because of corporatist laws and a complete lack of corporate transparency, people must go undercover to see what actually goes on in factory farms and vivisection labs. But no, just because you shot from the hip and felt like saying so, activists are “stupid,” even though they make it possible for discerning people like you to click a button and watch a video and come to an obvious conclusion.
By the way, without activists, you wouldn’t have clean water to drink, clean air to breathe, clean food to eat. Your African American neighbors would be slaves. You wouldn’t even have unlimited Internet access for a low monthly fee.
Edit - Also, what the fuck is this based off of? Just a generalization of animals? Or just the rough average? If so, this isn’t even worth reading. As it further disregards the individual differences between every animal, herbivore, carnivore, or omnivore alike.
The source I have for this information is: A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970). I don’t have a link for you, but maybe you can find it in a readable format somewhere online. To be clear, though, this is not meant to convey a “rough average.” And to reiterate, this is not the argument for veganism. It is simply a list of facts that is useful in rejecting an anatomy-based pro-meat-eating argument that is often made, which is both fallacious and factually incorrect.
“3/02/2010, 2:06pm EST”
(via theuntalentedmrripley)
Hey, humans: You don’t have fangs. We ran a post back in October about anatomy-focused arguments that seek to tie dietary morality to biological ancestry. E.g. “We have ‘canine’ teeth and therefore are meant to eat meat.” Not only is this fallacious, it gets the anatomy all wrong. Here’s the summary from that post:
“3/02/2010, 1:20pm EST”
Via SuperVegan, California legislators are set to begin weighing a bill that would create the nation’s first animal abuse registry modeled on widespread sex offender registries. The bill is being spearheaded by the Animal Legal Defense Fund and was introduced by State Senate majority leader Dean Florez.
The idea is simple and familiar: anybody convicted of felony abuse would be listed in a public database accessible to anyone with internet access. Animal shelter operators could check up on prospective pet owners, current pet owners could be aware of potential neighborhood threats, and some potential abusers would be deterred for fear of being shamed on a public list. Since non-human animal abusers are far more likely to commit violent crimes in general, the registry could also help law enforcement officials solve human abuse cases.
Bottom line: Without such a database, animal abusers essentially have free reign to abuse again and again. With it, many fewer animals will be brutalized.
Funding would come from a proposed two to three cent tax on pet food purchases, which would likely be considered a small and worthy trade by most responsible pet owners. Of course, pet food companies — despite all those commercials expressing a desire to keep your pet healthy and happy — are lining up against the bill for this reason.
If you live in California, find your state representatives here to call in your support. Otherwise, you can sign this petition urging your state lawmakers to enact similar legislation.
“2/25/2010, 5:24pm EST”
A kangaroo, “Killer Willard,” beats the crap out of his “handlers,” seemingly because he is annoyed with them for tugging on the rope around his neck.
But it’s okay, they “know Willard was just acting instinctively.”
“2/24/2010, 10:56pm EST”
Robert Watson, a top ingredient buyer for Kraft Foods, needed $20,000 to pay his taxes. So he called a broker for a California tomato processor that for years had been paying him bribes to get its products into Kraft’s plants.
The check would soon be in the mail, the broker promised. “We’ll have to deduct it out of your commissions as we move forward,” he said, using a euphemism for bribes.
Days later, federal agents descended on Kraft’s offices near Chicago and confronted Mr. Watson. He admitted his role in a bribery scheme that has laid bare a startling vein of corruption in the food industry. And because the scheme also involved millions of pounds of tomato products with high levels of mold or other defects, the case has raised serious questions about how well food manufacturers safeguard the quality of their ingredients.
Over the last 14 months, Mr. Watson and three other purchasing managers, at Frito-Lay, Safeway and B&G Foods, have pleaded guilty to taking bribes. Five people connected to one of the nation’s largest tomato processors, SK Foods, have also admitted taking part in the scheme.
“2/24/2010, 11:11am EST”
Pat Bagley, for the Salt Lake Tribune, 2/21/10. (H/t Mike P.)
A little background: Utah’s right-wing dominated legislature recently passed a resolution calling climate change a hoax and voted to exempt Utah-made guns from federal gun laws intended to keep them out of dangerous hands, which will likely spark an expensive legal battle for the cash-strapped state.
Nice work, idiots!
“2/23/2010, 10:31pm EST”
“Animals don’t behave like men. If they have to fight, they fight. If they have to kill, they kill. But they don’t sit down and set their wits to work to devise ways of spoiling other creatures’ lives and hurting them. They have dignity.”
—The rabbit Strawberry, in Richard Adams’ Watership Down.
“2/21/2010, 1:00pm EST”
papayaaaa: Cats massaging cats
As always, the lesson I take from this kind of thing is that other animals feel pleasure and pain that is very similar to ours. It is not enough to recognize this and go back to business as usual, where other sensitive animals are tortured and killed for profit — 50 billion of them annually, in fact.
Of course, it’s pretty darn obvious anyway that other animals’ pleasure/pain sensations are very real and intense, just from interacting with them. But here’s one for all the pseudo-intellectuals and “reality-based” thinkers who yet find a way to rationalize their chauvinism when it comes to assessing the interests and lives of non-human creatures: the single binding theory of all modern biology, evolution, entails that (a) we are very similar to non-human animals, and (b) other animals must have extremely sophisticated sensory systems to survive in nature. Meanwhile, targeted biological study confirms what should be obvious: other animals have neural systems that are more than sophisticated enough to process deep sensations and emotions, and hey, they just so happen to approximate the human pleasure/pain/emotional (fear, delight, anxiety) apparatus.
Humans have a little thing called the pre-frontal cortex which, as far as I can tell, most consequentially allows us to hold all sorts of false and vile beliefs. Newsflash: that doesn’t make us better than other animals.
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