“12/29/2009, 1:00pm EST”
re: re: re: re: re: Hey ladies, a bit of advice…
vizwrtsic: So, I like what you post, generally, but this time I’m going to have to tell you to shove it.
As a vegan, and a non-moron, I dig your anti-ugg stance, but as a woman, I think you sound like a patriarchal prick. I’ll betcha most women getting judged by you don’t give a fuck how attractive you find them. Why should women change their appearance to fit your standards? We don’t exist just to give you boners. “I only want you to be happy”? As your audience here is women, you are effectively (and condescendingly) saying women will be happy if they can get a guy. Guess what; women don’t need guys to be happy. You can be easily replaced with a piece of plastic and 2 double AA’s.
Please keep your patriarchy out of veganism. There are ways to save the sheep without re-enforcing restrictive gender roles and subjugating women.
Hey there, I wish you wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that I’m reinforcing “patriarchy,” especially since you do read a lot of our posts and know that we place a premium on thoughtfulness and rigorous argumentation. Nothing about what I said is gender-exclusive in the broader sense — it just so happens that I am a heterosexual male speaking his mind. I think you’ll agree it would be silly for me to add an asterisk accounting for all alternative possibilities to every word that I speak. It’s a reasonable expectation that you will not assume I am making patriarchal generalizations when… I’m simply not. If you were to write that you aren’t sexually attracted to men/women with facial hair — a far less ethically significant attribute than wearing UGGs — I certainly wouldn’t hold it against you in any broader sense. Re-read my words and I don’t think you’ll see any patriarchy or “subjugating” going on.
We all — men and women, and whomever we’re attracted to — have split seconds to decide whether or not strangers are worth our very limited and precious time. Honesty about this fact does not amount to arrogance, nor does it commit one to the idea that “women need men to be happy,” or that men need women to be happy, etc.
And by the way, of course the animal welfare aspect is the most important reason why UGGs should not be worn. But it is a fact that a lot of people only respond to social forces, and I’m happy to speak that language too if it contributes to making UGGs less desirable.
Late Update: Oh, and I think it’s at least a little at odds with your own position to say that, because you are a “non-moron,” you therefore like my anti-UGG stance.
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